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Keyserlingk correspondence between 21Mar2001 and 19Mar2010

[1] **** **** 21Mar2001 ****Zuzak to Keyserlingk **** Small Fish *******************************

Dear Robert Keyserlingk:

It is hard to believe that it is almost 15 months since we were last in contact. I ran across your excellent letter in the March 18, 2001 issue of the Ottawa Citizen. I am sure that all Ukrainians and especially Olya (Odynsky) Grod appreciate your epistle. The deliberate delays of Judge MacKay have paralysed her from publicizing the issue for 18 months. Time wasted.

I have taken the liberty of archiving your letter on my MoZeus web site at http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/

At this site you will also find the Canada 2000 Election link where I summarize the d/d issue. I tried to have Anne McLellan defeated by supporting Betty Unger of the Canadian Alliance but failed.

Right now, I am trying to finish summarizing the Demjanjuk Files at my Lily web site before the new Demjanjuk denaturalization trial begins on May 29, 2001.

Once again, thanks.

Regards
Will Zuzak

[2] **** **** 21Mar2001 **** Zuzak to Olya Odynsky **** Peter Warren Talk Show *******************************

Dear Olya (Odynsky) Grod:

(1) I am a little worried as to exactly when you are going to be on the Peter Warren Show. The schedules for Sunday June 23, 2002, that I could dig up were as follows:

Vancouver CKNW             10:00 a.m. - 2:00 p.m. PDT
Edmonton CHED am630     11:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m. MDT
Calgary QR77                     11:00 a.m. - 3:00 p.m. MDT
Winnipeg CJOB                   12:00 a.m. - 3:30 p.m. CDT
London CFPL am980         - no information -
Kitchener CKGL am570       1:00 p.m. EDT - ESPN or Play by Play
Toronto Talk640                 - no information -
Hamilton CHML am900      - no information -

Thus, if Peter Warren is broadcast live on all stations, the listening times should be 3:00 p.m. in Ontario, 2:00 p.m. in Manitoba, 1:00 p.m.in Saskatchewan and Alberta and 12:00 noon in British Columbia.

(2) In my opinion, a good time for you to be in Edmonton is the August 11, 2002 weekend for the annual Ukrainian Heritage Village festivities (60 km east of Edmonton). Many politicians try to attend this function. I'll discuss it with Eugene and Marco here.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Olya Grod" <[email protected]>
To: "mozuz" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: Peter Warren Talk Show

Hi Will,
I am available any time after July 15th to do a speaking tour.
But what are the chances of getting people out?
I will be going to the various summer camps to speak to the kids ....the next generation of voters !!!
I agree that we must keep up the pressure.
There was a letter to the editor in the Toronto Sun yesterday - one week after the Worthington article - that shows just how much mail they received !!!!!

Thanks for your continued support.
Olya

----- Original Message -----
From: "mozuz" <[email protected]>
To: "Olya Grod" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: Peter Warren Talk Show

Dear Olya (Odynsky) Grod:

(1)  I am delighted that you and Robert Keyserlingk will be appearing on the Peter Warren Show on Sunday June 23, 2002. Here, in Edmonton, this should be broadcast on 630 CHED AM at 3:00 p.m. MDT.

[By the way, Peter Warren was born in England in 1941 and presumably immigrated to Canada in 1956. I am sure that many of his detractors would love to see him denaturalized and deported. Same with Peter Mansbridge and Keith Landy.]

In my opinion, it is crucial that the testimony of 1940's - 1950's bureaucrats such as Mr. d'Ombrain (?) be discredited. Their sanctimonious testimony about their dedication, competence and honesty simply does not accord with the reality of that day. The so-called "Process which was in place" was deeply flawed.

(2) I talked to Tommy Banks about the d/d issue last fall at a UCPBA - Ukrainian students workshop. I would be pleased to post his letter to you on my web site at
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/odynsky.html

(3) I hope you will be able to make a speaking tour of Western Canada in the next few months. The blitz of the past two weeks has sensitized the Ukrainian community to the issue. We must not allow ourselves to revert back to complacency. A major effort must be made to inform and sensitize the general Canadian public.

Regards
Will Zuzak

----- Original Message -----
From: "Olya Grod" <[email protected]>
To: "Will Zuzak (E-mail)" <[email protected]>; "Vlodko Halchuk; ...
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:04 PM
Subject: Peter Warren Talk Show

I wish to advise you that I along with Mr.Robert Keyserlingk of Ottawa will be appearing on the Peter Warren Talk Show this Sunday June 23 at 1:00 pm Eastern time and I believe that is 4:00 pm western time.

Mr. Keyserlingk was an immigration officer in post war Europe. He wrote a very comprehensive brief and was scheduled to appear on behalf of Odynsky. We did not use him for strategic reasons. The prosecution did not venture into the areas that Mr. Keyserlingk was called to refute. He is very disappointed that he was not called as he feels he really could have helped. At the time, I went with the advice of Mr. Marrocco and Mr. Armstrong. Mr. Keyserlingk has been writing to government officials and the press for the past several years. His dedication to this matter is monumental.

Olya

[3] **** **** 04Feb2005 **** Zuzak to Natalie Harasymiw **** Keyserlingk Article *******************************

Dear Natalie Harasymiw and Craig Mahovsky:

Attached are my two Word 6.0/95 files on the Keyserlingk article. I have not recorded all the small corrections I made, but suggest an editing modification pasted below.

I have to do a bingo, so have to go!

Regards
Will Zuzak

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I would suggest that a second paragraph (or a footnote) be created to explain the above and that the title and first paragraph on page67, line14 be modified as follows:

REPLACE
1950 Admission of Waffen SS
An example of the government’s inconsistent application of its security rejection policy for WWII collaboration can be seen in the 1950 admission to Canada of a large group of Ukrainian Waffen SS volunteers. This case bears directly on the rapid change of attitude due to the Cold War within British and Canadian official establishments towards anti-Soviet immigrants. As outlined above, in 1946 Polish veterans on the Allied side were admitted to Canada, even though some of them had earlier fought against the Allies. In the case of these Ukrainians, even this standard was lowered because these men had fought in the Waffen SS on the Germans side, never on the Allied side. Still they were still permitted to come to Canada.

WITH
1950 Admission of Galicia Division
An example of the government’s inconsistent application of its security rejection policy for WWII collaboration can be seen in the 1950 admission to Canada of a large group of Ukrainian Galicia Division volunteers. This case bears directly on the rapid change of attitude due to the Cold War within British and Canadian official establishments towards anti-Soviet immigrants. As outlined above, in 1946 Polish veterans on the Allied side were admitted to Canada, even though some of them had earlier fought against the Allies. In the case of these Ukrainians, even this standard was lowered because these men had fought in a Waffen SS combat unit against the Red Army (but never against the Western Allies). Nevertheless, they were still permitted to come to Canada.

p68,ln6 – These Ukrainians had volunteered in the summer and fall of 1943 to fight under the Germans against the Soviets.
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With the encouragement of the Ukrainian intellectual elite (including Metropolitan Andrij Sheptytsky), these Ukrainians had volunteered in the summer and fall of 1943 to fight under the Germans against the Soviets
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[4] **** **** 01Nov2005 **** Zuzak - Keyserlingk contact ***********************************

Dear Robert Keyserlingk:

If you recall, we were in Email contact on the Wasyl Odynsky case in the 1998-2000 years and lost contact. I got your new Email address from an Email sent by Natalie Harasymiw. Hopefully, this message will reach you.

As you probably know, I was helping Eugene Harasymiw with his book on d&d, within which your article is one item. Since he died on Oct. 02, 2004, I have been encouraging and helping Natalie Harasymiw to get the book published via the Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies (CIUS).
Unfortunately, they are slow as molasses.

I have continued my work on d&d and most recently have been monitoring developments in the Josef Furman case here in Edmonton. I also write a monthly Zuzak GRC Report (Government Relations Committee report for UCC-APC), which I distribute to a number of people. Hoping that you have no objections, I have put you on my distribution list.

I looked up your coordinates via 411.ca and tried to phone you earlier today, but you were out. I would be pleased to re-establish contact, if you are so inclined.

Respectfully yours
Will Zuzak

[5] **** **** 02Nov2005 **** Furman - Skomatchuk trial ***********************************

Dear Robert Keyserlingk:

[I note that you refer to me as Mr Mozuz, presumably because that is what appears in the From: window of the messages I send. This is a mnemonic for my brother Moe Zuzak, to whom this computer originally belonged and who passed away on Oct. 25, 1998. Frankly, I haven't figured out how to have my name Will Zuzak, rather than my Email address, appear in the From: window.

Secondly, I always use the full name in the text of my Email messages -- even with my brothers. It is a habit that I got into many years ago, which proved very useful when you "strip headers" and concatenate messages. It has nothing to do with a misplaced sense of formality.]

The lawyer for both Josef Furman and Jura Skomatchuk is Eric Hafemann, who is also the lawyer for Helmut Oberlander. Personally, I think you should be called as an expert witness for the defense in both these cases. [If I recall from Olya Odynsky, you were to testify in the Wasyl Odynsky case, but the lawyer Marrocco decided not to use you for some unexplained reason.]

Last week, as I was discussing the Josef Furman case with his sons, Len and Bob, your name came up as an expert in immigration procedures during the 1950's. I told them to look up your articles archived on my website and especially the interview on the Peter Warren Show with you and Olya Odynsky.http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/odynsky.html
or specifically
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/keyserlingk20010318.html
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/keyserlingk20010425.html
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/keyserlingk20010505.html
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/keyserlingk20020403.html
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/keyserlingk20020930gazette.html
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/warren2002june23.html

Rather than sending your manuscript to Hafemann, I think we should first get it to Len and Bob Furman. Presumably, you could send it as an attachment to an Email, or Natalie Harasymiw or I could do it.

With your permission, I will contact the Furman's and give them your Email address. That way, we could carry on a three-way discussion.

Regards
Will Zuzak

----- Original Message -----
From: "robert keyserlingk" <[email protected]>
To: "mozuz" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: Zuzak GRC Report; Nov. 02, 2005

Dear Mr Mozuz,
I wonder whether it might be a help to those defence lawyers if I sent them a copy of my article on the immigration fraud sections of the D&D trials, in which I try to shoot down the perception of lying upon entry argument? If you think it might, let me know their email addresses please.

[email protected]
Robert and Michaela Keyserlingk

[6] **** **** 03Nov2005 **** Furman Family ***********************************

Dear Furman Family:
Listed below are the articles by Robert Keyserlingk, including the interview on the Peter Warren Show with Olya Odynsky, that are archived on my website:
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/odynsky.html
or specifically
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/keyserlingk20010318.html
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/keyserlingk20010425.html
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/keyserlingk20010505.html
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/keyserlingk20020403.html
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/keyserlingk20020930gazette.html
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mozuz/odynsky/warren2002june23.html

Dr. Keyserlingk is an expert on immigration procedures during the 1950's and would make an excellent expert witness for your father's defence. He also wrote an article on this subject for the forthcoming book by Eugene Harasymiw.

[7] **** **** 06Aug2007 **** Reply to Bob Keyserlingk ***********************************

Dear Bob Keyserlingk:

Apologies for not replying immediately, but I was busy and am taking off for a week. The Email address of Olya Odynsky is [email protected] , her home phone number is 416-622-3727 .

As you can probably tell by my writings, I am not at all happy with the response of the Ukrainian Community to the latest d&d developments -- Wasyl Odynsky and Vladimir Katriuk "amnestied", Jacob Fast and Helmut Oberlander "citizenship revoked", Josef Furman and Yura Skomatchuk "in limbo". Divide and conquer seems to be the persecutors strategy.

In my opinion, the Ukrainian community should make a massive effort to convince the government to reinstate the citizenship of Mssrs. Oberlander and Fast. All Canadians should demand that the d&d policy be abandoned. The federal government should apologize for initiating the d&d process and provide financial compensation to its victims.

Furthermore, I suspect that most of the lawyers for the defence in these d&d cases were compromised and only put up a token defence.

And I am still waiting for the book of Eugene Harasymiw to be published.

All the best
Will Zuzak

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Ela Keyserlingk" <[email protected]>
To: "William Zuzak" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: Zuzak GRC Report; Aug. 01, 2007

Thanks for the Odynski articles. Having been involved - but not enough thanks to their lawyer - I appreciated particularily your on-the-spot remarks:

[W.Z. I must respectfully disagree with Ms. Odynsky. In my opinion, the legal counsel for Mr. Odynsky failed to appropriately challenge the prosecution's contention that, during the chaotic immigration period following WWII, a "system was in place requiring that all prospective immigrants be screened by a visa control officer". The prosecution contends that all immigrants underwent such interviews during which they allegedly "lied" about their wartime activities. The witnesses for the prosecution in this area were not appropriately challenged. Evidence to the contrary not effectively presented. In my opinion, Ukrainian historians, researchers and academics have failed to do appropriate research in this area. This failure seems to have bedeviled the defence counsels of virtually all the d&d cases, in particular, that of Josef Furman and Yura Skomatchuk. Indeed, the legal profession bears a huge responsibility for allowing the fraudulent d&d process to proceed in the first place.]

I have misplaced the Odynski email address - do you have it?

[email protected]
Robert and Michaela Keyserlingk
8097 Ch Lac Labelle
Labelle, QC, J0T 1H0, Canada
(819)686-2335
and
906-111 Wurtemburg St
OTTAWA, ON, K1N 8M1, Canada
(613) 789-5946

[8] **** **** 15Feb2010 **** Condolences to Mrs. Keyserlingk ***********************************

Dear Mrs. Keyserlingk:

My condolences to you on the passing of your husband. I am deeply saddened to hear the news. As you know, he wrote a very important article on the reality of Canadian immigration procedures in the early 1950s. In his last Email message to me on 08Oct2009, he wrote:

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The choice whether to use or not use my material in war crimes cases like Olga's father was not the defendants, but their dumb lawyers.  They never seemed to realize that these civil trials essentially consisted of two parts - was the defendant war criminal? According to the weak evidential rules in civil cases like this, how believable need the evidence be (usually very weak)?  The lawyers concentrated on the first of these issues and usually won, thinking then that they had won their case.  So they decided not to go into the second part about which I wrote and on which basis they consistently lost their cases in which the defendants were judged "perhaps" to have lied upon emigration to Canada.  A pity.

All the best, Bob Keyserlingk
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I would like to archive a tribute to Robert Keyserlingk on the d&d page of my website. Could you send me some details of his life such as date and place of birth and death, education, some career highlights, etc.? Perhaps you and/or your family have written an obituary. If so, I would be pleased to receive it.

In the words of your late husband ...

All the best to you and your family,
William Zuzak; 2010.02.15

----- Original Message -----
From: Michaela Keyserlingk
To: William Zuzak
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Zuzak GRC Report; February 03, 2010

Dear Mr. Zuzak,
Would you please take us of your mailing list. Robert Keyserlingk died December 2009. Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: William Zuzak
To: Robert/Michaela Keyserlingk
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 2:12 AM
Subject: Zuzak GRC Report; February 03, 2010

Zuzak GRC Report; Wed., February 03, 2010
[... deleted ...]

[9] **** **** 19Mar2010 **** To Myron Kuropas re Michaela Keyserlingk request ***********************************

Dear Myron Kuropas:

I am writing to inquire about the status of your article for the book of the late Eugene Harasymiw (2004.10.02) on denaturalization and deportation. A couple of months ago, Jars Balan said that he was waiting for the latest version of your article and that he was writing an appropriate introduction. Our TYC organization has been encouraging Jars Balan to finish the project, but there always seem to be delays.

As you probably heard, Robert Keyserlingk passed away on 08 December 2009 without seeing his article published. As indicated by the message below, his wife Michaela Keyserlingk would like to see the project finished also.

Our TYC (Ukrainian Self-Reliance Association) Edmonton branch is having a meeting this Monday, 22Mar2010 at which we would like to discuss the book. Could we have some feedback from you?

Respectfully yours
Will Zuzak

----- Original Message -----
From: Michaela Keyserlingk
To: William Zuzak
Cc: Natalie Harasymiw
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 4:54 AM
Subject: Robert Keyserlingk

Dear Mr. Zuzak,
I was just going through some of Bob's papers only to realize that his contribution to a publication started by the late Dr. Harasymiw concerning the treatment of Ukrainians accused of war crimes, was never published. As you know Mr. Harasymiw died and his wife Natalie took over the publication only to get paralyzed by a young academic who is unable to get projects finished. Considering the effort Bob and Mr. Harasymiw have put into this cause I think it is a great pity that the book was never published. I know how disappointed Bob was about this failure. Therefore I wonder if you could help? To finish this project would be a worthy gesture by the Ukrainian Community to two men who cared about justice and fairness.

Please let me know what you think.
With kind regards,
Michaela Keyserlingk

www.CanadianAsbestosExports.ca
Michaela Keyserlingk
8097 Ch L.ac Labelle
Labelle, QC, J0T 1H0, Canada
(819)686-2335
      or
906-111 Wurtemburg St
Ottawa ON, K1N 8M1, Canada
(613) 789-5946
[email protected]

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