Nationalism blinds!
My goodness, I never expected so much poor knowlegde about
history here and such a hate with right wing background. Wiesnthal was
accused by Bruno Kreisky, former chancellor of Austria, that he was a
Nazi collaboratuer, but Kresiky couldn't prove this in court as there
was evidence for it. Folks, if you don't know anything about
Wiesenthal's bio, then better shut up. Making him an actor and not a
victim of the Nazi politics is a late beat in his face in which he was
beaten by Nazis. And the discussion here that Bandera was not a
collaborateur - well, that Hitler threw him into a concentration camp
is no proof he wasn't. Have you heard about Röhm, his former "comrade"
that established the SA in Germany? Röhm was murdered by Hitler later
when Hitler found Röhn was getting too much power in the state. THAT
was Hitler, search for cooperating and supporting people and then send
them to hell if they weren't useful any more.
Did you know that Ukrainian militionists detached Wiesenthal in L'viv
in July 1941? You see, if the Simon Wiesenthal Center critizises the
decision of Juschenko, they know what they do. I see that Ukraine has
still to do lot to get a clear view on the past. There were not only
Saints in Ukrainian history as well as there weren't many Saints in
German history. Both our histories contain blood and blame. Ukraine
mainly was a victim by two sides, but everybody should accept the fact
that there were people lending a helping hand against Jews, that there
were collaborateurs all over Europe, see the Vichy Regime in France.
Understanding is healing and preventing that this can be repeated.
Ukrainians should better concentrate in the Hetmanship if searching for
positive aspects of history than of people like Bandera. He is not at
all an archetype for a democratic and human society.
An expose of Wiesenthal's taking a photo out of Life Magazine
(issue of June 11, 1945, p. 50) that showed three honest-to-goodness
German spies executed by Americans, and slyly turning the pic into a
rendering of three imaginary Jews in identical poses allegedly executed
by Germans, as if it were for real (scroll down to the bottom).
http://web.archive.org/web/20040213174357/ukar.org/24life.html
Most of the comments here expose Simon Weisenthal as the original huckster and flim flam man. Any cursory study of his biography pitted against historical events...and it is evident the man was a complete fraud with the moral scruples of shylock. The SWC is just another phoney money generating machine using all means possible to throw slime on anything they may not like. Perhaps they should first examine the life history of their founder who was a Nazi stooge and consummate liar. If ever there was a bottom feeding scavenger...simon weisenthal was it.
It seems that Simon Wiesenthal worked for the Soviet
Communists AND the Gestapo and the Polish Fascists...a fantastic
opportunist! and "survivor" and "Nazi Hunter"....and teller of
fantastic tales!
see the new book about him below and the interesting articles below:
"Hunting Evil: The Nazi War Criminals Who Escaped and the Quest to
Bring Them to Justice" by Guy Walters (Hardcover - May 4, 2010)
Simon Wiesenthal: Fraudulent 'Nazi Hunter'
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/wiesenthal.shtml
The Simon Wiesenthal Center: A Bastion of Jewish-Zionist Power
http://www.ihr.org/other/swcpower.html
An Overview of The Simon Wiesenthal Center
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v15/v15n4p-2_Weber.html
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v09/v09p439_Weber.html
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n3p-9_Staff.html
How the Simon Wiesenthal Center Falsifies History
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v18/v18n5p-4_SWC.html
The War Years of Simon Wiesenthal -- New Light on a Dark Past
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v21/v21n1p15_okeefe.html
http://www.ihr.org/conference/beirutconf/010212swc.html
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v20/v20n1p-7_Paine.html
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p489_OKeefe.html
In its Spring 1991 issue of Response, the Simon Wiesenthal
Center’s own magazine reported German firms were producing Zyklon B gas
in Iraq, "the chemical used by the Germans to murder millions of Jews
during the Nazi Holocaust." Iranian prisoners of war, the Wiesenthal
Center claimed, were being killed with Zyklon B "in gas chambers
specially designed for the Iraqis by the German company Rhema
Labortechnik.” Those outrageous claims were, in fact, patently false,
crude propaganda.
Then in 2006, a widely circulated story put out by the
Wiesenthal Center - and repeated, for example, by Canada’s
National Post -falsely claimed that all Jews in Iran were being
forced to wear yellow badges as a matter of
Iranian government policy, in a way that was reminiscent of
Nazi-era Germany, in order to make Jews easily able to be identified as
Jews. Again those outrageous claims were, in fact, patently false,
crude propaganda.
The Wiesenthal Center has shown that it has no moral authority in
commenting on contemporary affairs.
Maybe the Simon Wiesenthal Center should ask itself why it is so eager to accept the Russian smear campaign against Bandera who fought against those who commited the Holocaust against the Jews, ie. the Nazis? Didn't the Soviets also persecute religious Jews as well as Ukrainian Christians? Is it because there were so many Jews with Ukrainian blood on their hands? You know, the likes of Lazar Kaganovich and his ilk, Jewish collaborators, who perpetrated crimes against humanity in Ukraine with their Soviet Russian brothers.
SWC doesn't need "to accept the Russian smear campaign"
against the Ukrainian struggle for freedom because it makes up enough
HATE on its own....remember the "UGLY FACE OF FREEDOM" hate propaganda
through some of its television media? ...GOOGLE "60 Minutes-the Ugly
Face of Freedom" if you are not familiar with it!
They NEVER could stand the idea that Ukrainians and Ukraine would NOT
be enslaved!
Maybe it's time to revisit the role Jewish people played in the Stalinist/communist regimes.
Maybe its also time to revisit all the tens of thousands jews killed by Ukrainians in the 1648 uprising! You Ukrainians are a bunch of hyprocrites....It is a well known world fact that Bandera was a Nazi helper.
very good !
Jews were the benefactors of Ukrainian enslavement by the Poles. They were the land-owners/tavren keepers, oppurtunists who fed off others unfortunates...they put themselves at risk at that time.
Ukrainians are anti Jewish pigs and have the country that they so richly deserve. When the Russians ride into Kiev on their T-95's I'll be having a party.
I don't belive there are any more anti jewish people in Ukraine than any other country. All countrys have some people anti some religion or other. As for the Russians invadeing, well, you really need to grow up and get a life. Maybe you should divert some of your energy into explaining to ordinary people like me why jews think they have a right to behave as they have done and continue to do in Palastine.
Ukrainians are Christians and do NOT hate Jews. What Ukrianians do not like is that so many Jewish people are hypocrites and refuse to accept that so many Jews were Soviet collaborators with the Russians in commiting horrific crimes against freedom loving Ukrainian Christians as well as other nations dominated for 70 years by Soviet Russia. Moreover, most Ukrainians support the right of the Jews to their ancient land of Israel, while many Jews living in Ukraine as still pro Russian, many even refusing to learn the Ukrainian language.
If you belive in the ancient right to land by jews then you must be one, percentage wise, of a rare breed. At 57 years old I have never heard such opinions of oppression other than in anti russian propoganda. As far as the Ukrainian language it really is time to adopt a similar system as England and Wales. Speak which you choose, all public offices staffed with bilingual staff and all official papers printed in both languages. Since adopting this system some years ago the number of people speaking and learning welsh has increased.
You are a clown
Maybe, you should read more. It is not a "well known fact"
that Bandera was a "Nazi helper". He declared Ukrainian independence
after the fall of Lviv and then refused the Nazi demand that he
renounce the declaration, leading to his arrest and imprisonment.
It is a well known LIE that the USSR and now the Russian Federation
seek to paint him as a "Nazi helper". The Wehrmacht, Germany, and
Hitler did not need his help. That is why they so readily disposed of
him.
Anyone who is willing to find the true history about Bandera
will see that he was definitely not a Nazi collaborator. He himself was
arrested by the Nazi's and taken to Sachsenhausen concentration camp.
His brothers were taken to Auschwitz concentration camp and were killed.
Anyone who wants to seek true collaborators should look at the old
Soviet communist regime and see how their relationship with Germany set
the stage for WWII and all of the tragedies that followed. The
Molotov-Ribbentrop pact not only divided Europe into two but the two
sides traded heavily, including food stuffs and military supplies which
undoubtedly contributed in prolonging the war and many more countless
military and civilian deaths, including the Holocaust.
Bandera, fought both regimes; one being just as bad as the other. for
what purpose? To free a country, Ukraine, stuck between a rock and a
hard place (i.e. Germany and Russia). Yes, anywhere else he would be a
hero.
Anywhere else he would have sit in prison for all his life.
Provilna!
Read from Anatoli Kuznetsov's book "Babi Yar". He was 12 years old and
lived in Kiev when the war started and will tell you about the
Bolsheviks compared to the Nazis. Both systems scared his family into
burning books. Mostly out of fear of being taken away.
Further, he says that up until June 22 1941, Stalin was portrayed in
Soviet film as the greatest world leader; "after him came Hitler".
(from the film VM Molotov's visit to Berlin).
You will also find that the USSR was providing Hitler and Germany with
food and raw materials up until the day that Germany attacked.
Ukraine actually existed on the good side of the war- Wiesenthal has
made the wrong choice in critisizing this event.
Mother Russia will write her own history. Western history is liars.
...and you are a freak.
Let me assure all readers that the Ukrainian Jewish diaspora
do not support Yushchenko. I could not find one who spoke positively
about Yushcehnko's term of office.
The headline should have read.
"Yushchenko's post election hero worship of NAZI collaborator under
fire"
Yushchenko in his dying days as President of Ukraine, knowing that he
had lost the election and would not serve a second term of office
unilaterally awarded Stepan Bandera the official "status of Hero".
Bandera and the UPA were NAZI collaborators during the second world war
and many in Ukraine believe he should have been tried as a war criminal
not awarded Hero status. The Ukrainian Jewish community in particular
are outraged by Yushchenko's decision, and rightly so.
So where are you living now? Mr. Diaspora...
You don't have to convince us ...we know their anti-Ukrainian HATE campaigns very well!
As a lifelong American, Christian supporter of Israel, I don't
really care what you think. This is an intellectual and political
battle between free Ukraine and autocratic Russia and you are,
apparently, taking the side of suppression and evil.
American Christians fooled themselves into accepting the jews as "the chosen people"..but they turn a blind eye of Israels terror in Palestine...and believe in some evangelical showdown of "good" vs "evil" hilarious bs.
http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2010/01/norman-finkelstein-debates-holocaust.html
copy & email to self & then view video
who cares what Holodomor collaborators and deniers say or think
You seem misguided and misinformed. I suggest you read the
post just above yours (MYKR).
Sincerely
Bohdan