Kyiv Post | 02Feb2010 | Associated Press
Investigator: Evidence shows
Demjanjuk at Sobibor
MUNICH (AP) — A German investigator testifying at John Demjanjuk's
trial says evidence links the former Ohio autoworker to the Sobibor
Nazi death camp.
Thomas Walther, who led the investigation that prompted Germany to
prosecute Demjanjuk, on Tuesday presented papers that Demjanjuk filled
out for refugee and immigration purposes in the late 1940s and early
1950s in which he said he was a farmer in Sobibor, Poland.
Walter says Demjanjuk later told investigators that he lied and chose a
Polish residence to ensure that he wasn't deported back to his native
The 89-year-old Demjanjuk maintains he was never at the camp. He is
accused of serving as a low-level guard and is charged with accessory
to murder in 27,900 deaths.
in Nazi camps, Guest | Today
THE ROLE PLAYED BY UKRAINIANS IN NAZI CAMPS
Two objections can be made with respect to the heavy blame that today's
media places on Ukrainian participation in Nazi killing.
First, identifying the nationality of alleged perpetrators falls short
of reliable, as is illustrated in the testimony of Sobibor survivor
Ya'akov Biskowitz testifying at the Eichmann trial:
Judge Halevi: Who were
these Ukrainians you mentioned all the time? Which Ukrainians did you
refer to constantly in your evidence?
Witness Biskowitz: These were Russian prisoners of war who went over to
the German side. Of course, the Germans gave them the alternative
either to be prisoners or to collaborate. They guarded the camp.
State of Israel, Ministry of Justice, The Trial of Adolf Eichmann,
Record of Proceedings in the District Court of Jerusalem, Jerusalem
1992. The Trust for the Publication of the Proceedings of the Eichmann
Trial in co-operation with the Israel State Archives and Yad Vashem —
the Holocaust Martyrs' and Heroes' Remembrance Authority. Printed in
Israel at Keter Enterprises, Jerusalem. Session No. 65, 05 June 1961,
It may be guessed from the above that all Soviet prisoners tended to be
called Ukrainian simply because for the most part they were captured
and held on Ukrainian territory.
More importantly, it is widely recognized that policing inside Nazi
camps was done by Jewish prisoners. This is evident in the earliest of
our six authoritative sources above, the 1943 Black Book of Polish
Jewry (BBPJ), where it is Jewish Kapos and Auxiliaries who greet
arrivals disembarking from trains, who address them in Yiddish,
organize them, command them to undress in preparation for a bath, cut
the females' hair, and sort the clothing and possessions and valuables
left by the victims. According the the BBPJ, it is only when the
victims begin to move toward the death house that Jewish Kapos and
Auxiliaries cede control to the German SS, who proceed to whip and club
the victims along the path. And after the victims have been killed, it
is Germans who oversee the Jewish body-disposers and grave-diggers. No
Ukrainian is ever described as making any contact with any prisoner.
Were the BBPJ the only account of this kind, it would carry little
weight, but in fact similar accounts are common, as for example that
given at Nuremberg by Georg Konrad Morgen who twice asserts that
policing inside exterimination camp Monowitz, lying near the
concentration camp Auschwitz, was in the hands of Jews, with perimeter
security assigned to guards of many nationalities, Ukrainians in the
present instance trailing the others:
I thoroughly investigated
the entire stretch of territory and studied the lay-out and
installation. The prisoners arrived on a side track in closed transport
cars and were unloaded there by Jewish prisoners. Then they were sorted
out according to their capacity for work, and here the methods of Hoess
and Wirth differed. [...]
They could have been taken for large bathing establishments and that is
what they told the prisoners. These crematoria were surrounded by a
barbed wire fence and were guarded from the inside by the Jewish labour
details which I have already mentioned. The new arrivals were led into
a large dressing-room and told to take their clothing off. [...]
The camp itself was guarded on the outside by special troops of men
from the Baltic, Esthonians, Lithuanians, Latvians and also Ukrainians.
The entire technical arrangement was almost exclusively in the hands of
the prisoners who were assigned for this, and they were only supervised
by an Unterführer from time to time. The actual killing was done by
another Unterführer who let the gas into this room. Thus the number who
knew about these things was extremely limited.
The Trial of German Major War Criminals, Proceedings of the
International Military Tribunal Sitting at Nuremberg Germany, Taken
from the Official Transcript, Published under the authority of H.M.
Attorney-General by his Majesty's Stationery Office. The Hundred and
Ninety-Eighth Day, Thursday, 8th August, 1946, Vol. 20, p. 391.
Describing not just a single camp, but the many camps covered
in the Eichmann trial, Hannah Arendt reinforces and broadens the above
impression, concluding that Jewish leadership provided indispensible
cogs in the Nazi killing machine, not the least of which cogs were the
terminal ones at the scene of death, and where if a non-Jew had
occasion to set foot, that non-Jew would be German:
The well-known fact that
the actual work of killing in the extermination centers was usually in
the hands of Jewish commandos had been fairly and squarely established
by witnesses for the prosecution--how they had worked in the gas
chambers and the crematories, how they had pulled the gold teeth and
cut the hair of the corpses, how they had dug the graves and, later,
dug them up again to extinguish the traces of mass murder; how Jewish
technicians had built gas chambers in Theresienstadt, where the Jewish
"autonomy" had been carried so far that even the hangman was a Jew. (p.
The matter of cooperation was twice mentioned by the judges; Judge
Yitzak Raveh elicited from one of the resistance witnesses an admission
that the "ghetto police" were an "instrument in the hands of murderers"
and an acknowledgment of "the Judenrat's policy of cooperating with the
Nazis"; and Judge Halevi found out from Eichmann in cross-examination
that the Nazis had regarded this cooperation as "the very cornerstone"
of their Jewish policy. But the question the prosecutor regularly
addressed to each witness except the resistance fighters which sounded
so very natural to those who knew nothing of the factual background of
the trial, the question "Why did you not rebel?," actually served as a
smoke screen for the question that was not asked. And thus it came to
pass that all answers to the unanswerable question Mr. Hausner put to
his witnesses were considerably less than "the truth, the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth." True it was that the Jewish people as a
whole had not been organized, that they had possessed no territory, no
government, and no army, that, in the hour of their greatest need, they
had no government-in-exile to represent them among the Allies (the
Jewish agency for Palestine under Dr. Weizmann's presidency, was at
best a miserable substitute), no caches of weapons, no youth with
military training. But the whole truth was that there existed Jewish
community organizations and Jewish party and welfare organizations on
both the local and the international level. Wherever Jews lived, there
were recognized Jewish leaders, and this leadership, almost without
exception, cooperated in one way or another, for one reason or another,
with the Nazis. The whole truth was that if the Jewish people had
really been unorganized and leaderless, there would have been chaos and
plenty of misery but the total number of victims would hardly have been
between four and a half and six million people. (p. 111)
Hannah Arendt, Eichmann in Jerusalem: A report on the banality of evil,
The Viking Press, New York, 1963.
The collaboration of Jews in Holocaust killing is a tragic and shameful
part of Jewish history which the Jewish people need to face up to,
instead of expecting Ukrainians to submit to the role of scapegoats.
Guest | Today at 20:25
As had been recommended down below, I did indeed click on
and learned much that was both new and startling from xoxol.org's
scholarly refutation of much of the "conventional wisdom (!?!)" in the
never ending John Demjanjuk case - classic example of Persecution by
Prosecution . . .
re: John Demjanjuk, Guest |
Today at 19:59
copy the above and email to yourself and learn the truth
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Guest | Today at 22:54
Fantastic news. The fabricated myth of Ukrainian culpability
in the so-called Holocaust has now been shattered and put to rest.
Outstanding research lays blame where it has always been....with the
jews themselves. It is now time for that tribe to begin persecuting
their own and stop fabricating malicious tales of woe. If anything,
Ukrainians have tried to save the jews from themselves. It's
unfortunate that they don't realize that 'truth' will sooner or later
win out and they will be pilloried for their deceitful behaviour. And
that time is obviously now.
Guest | Today at 18:09
low-level guard ... certainly has a lot of authority over life
and death.. Hitler is dead.. and the SS.. let this old man go to die in
Guest | Today at 19:10
hang this old nazi killer and give his victims peace
soviet hack, Guest | Today
get over it...the uSSr doesn't exist anymore ...this will come
as a shock to you but in civilized countries the courts rely on real
proof NOT Stalinist dictates and the judiciary is NOT under political
pressure to ensure an outcome but to ascertain truth and make sure
proper safeguards are followed for a fair trial. Obviously to a typical
soviet primitive subject as yourself THIS must be shocking and
confusing as you know only how to dabble in simple mindless slogans and
emotions. Hopefully with time you will mature and possibly pass
resembling and acting like a real respectable person...unfortunately in
your case it seems it will take a LOT of time...good luck
Guest | Today at 16:33
good to hear