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VOSvoboda | 21Jun2013 | Yurij Michalchyshyn [13:20, Ukr]
Y. Michalchyshyn in
talk-show Shuster LIVE 21.06.2013
Published on 22 Jun 2013
Ю.Михальчишин у ток-шоу Шустер LIVE 21.06.2013
Народний депутат України
свободівець Юрій Михальчишин 21 червня 2013 року взяв участь у ток-шоу
Шустер LIVE. Йшлося, зокрема, про події на Волині.
Відео підготував Микита Сафроненко (www.facebook.com/niksafronenko)
[W.Z. Yurij Michalchyshyn discusses historical events in
Volhyn, Ukraine and the present attempts by Ukrainophobes to foment
dissension between Poles and Ukrainians.]
[00:00 - 00:09] Shuster asks position of Svoboda on the
anti-Ukrainian resolution passed by the Polish Senate (concerning
massacres of Poles in Volhyn during WW2).
[00:00 - 04:19] Michalchyshyn states that several hundred thousands of
Ukrainians were cleansed from their native lands by the Polish Home
Army, including his grandfather, an Orthodox priest, and his church
- During the inter-war years Poland was not a democratic nation --
quotas for University entrance; massive discrimination.
- The first concentration camp in Europe, Dachau, was opened in Munich,
Germany in 1933. The second concentration camp was opened by the Poles
in 1934 at Bereza Kartuzka (now in Belarus), in which many Ukrainian
nationalists and communists were incarcerated.
- In power was a military-industrial junta, which considered 40% of
inhabitants (Ukrainians, Jews, Lithuanians, Belarusans) as second class
- How does the Polish Home Army differ from the Ukrainian UPA? Both
were national armies fighting against 2 occupants. One enemy was
defeated in 1945, the other continued the occupation until 1991. The
German concentration camps in Poland were taken over and perpetuated by
the Red Army.
- We should remember all forgotten tragedies, not just the Polish
tragedy in Volyn in 1943. It was a civil war with many mixed marriages
where brother killed brother. But it must be remembered that during the 1930s there was
a colonization policy of the Polish government which displaced
Ukrainians and replaced them with Polish officers, bureaucrats,
teachers, etc. Now the Polish Senate demonizes Ukrainians and lionizes
the Polish colonisers. For whom is this hate-mongering necessary?
[04:20 - 05:29] Kshishtof Zanucci (speaking Russian) via Skype from
Warsaw, Poland proposing reconciliation. He recognizes Polish
atrocities against Ukrainians; it is time for Ukrainians to recognize
atrocities against Poles.
[05:30 - 06:36] Mychalchyshyn is also in favour of reconciliation.
Ukrainians recognize the Polish tragedies in Volhyn, but want Poles and
Ukrainophobes to also recognize the pain that Ukrainians suffered.
[06:37 - 07:37] Ukainian woman spectator says that her father, sisters
and whole family were killed by the Poles. It was Stalinist politics
at work. As shoolchildren they had a rhyme "Lenin, Stalin, Voroshilov
... may you be suffocated". Communists were, are and will continue to
be liars. "I am ready to forgive and let them forgive us. There is no
[07:38 - 07:59] Shuster asks why Svoboda insists that the terminology
in Ukrainian statutes be changed from "Great Patriotic War" (from
22Jun1941 to 09May1945) to the "Second Great War" (from 01Sep1939 to
09May1945)? Why ? These people are still alive.
[08:00 - 13:20] Michalchyshyn takes the opportunity to wish good health
to all participants who survived the "Great" war -- the ordinary
soldiers, pilots, those in the trenches, etc. This war was a tectonic
explosion of evil. The heros were ordinary soldiers in the Red Army,
the German Army, the Italian Army and the partisans -- they were all
equal before death and God. On the other hand, for all those
who wrote self-serving memoirs after the war, received Stalinist
medals, those who promoted hatred, those who sent people into
concentration camps, those who wanted to make the whole world a
concentration camp -- there are no words in the lexicon to describe
them. The term "Great Patriotic War" was created by Stalin in his
speech on 03Jul1941, so as to omit his collaboration with Hitler to
occupy Poland on 01Sep1939. During this period, Soviet armies
Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Bukovyna, Bessarabia and attacked Finland.
They fed Hitler's armies with Ukrainian bread, Caspian oil, molybdenum
and coal from Donetsk. Bandera and Melnyk did not sign a pact with
Hitler, but via the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact Stalin collaborated with
Hitler. World War Two was thus a Soviet-Nazi initiated war resulting in
the deaths of tens of millions of innocent people. The term for this
conflict should be the "Second Great War" and not the "Great Patriotic